Alb. "z" ( it was Re: [tied] Re: Latin pinso etc.)

Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:

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> From: "alex" <alxmoeller@...>
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> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Latin pinso etc.
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>> That is that. How can one show there was no "s^" in that time in
>> BecomingAlbanian but there has been an "z^" ?
>
> There wasn't!! *s and *z became respectively *s^ and *z^ much later.
> The gaps they left in the phonological system of Old Albanian were
> filled by older *c^ and *3^, which have become Modern Albanian /s/
> and /z/.
>
> Piotr

Which *s and *z do you mean here? The PIE *s and *z?

Now to this "z". There is a difference in Alb. between "z" and "dh".
Now, there is in Alb. and Rom. for instance the
common suffix zã/zë which in Alb. is different from suffix "-dhe" or
"-dhë" ( equivalent of Rom. suffix -dã)

Since you say that the Modern Albanian /z/ is coming from an *3^I have
to admit in Rom. the /z/ in this suffix is too coming from an *3^which
is false.
Then the /z/ in Modern Albanian must be old , at least as old as in Rom.
The last question here should be interesting for Abdullah. Are there in
Albanians archaic & regional forms of the words which have variants of
"z" as "z^" or "gj-"?

Alex