From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 29666
Date: 2004-01-16
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From: "Abdullah Konushevci" <a_konushevci@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 1:38 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Latin pinso etc.
> I am afraid that Rom. Sarpe < *serp- is an intermediary form of Alb.
gjarp-�r <Sarp(e) < *Sjarp-, due to Pedersen's low that PIE /*s/,
followed by palatals vowel, yields in Albanian /gj/ </sh/,
This is untenable, since the voicing is much older than the passage of *s >
s^ (<sh>). The development must have been *s > *z > *z^ (parallel to *s >
s^) > gj, without an itermediate *s^. In other words, while <gjarp�r> is a
native word, it can't be the source of Romanian <$arpe>, in which the
initial /s^/ results from a well-known phonetic development internal to
Romanian.
> ... Its archaic form was
preserved also in <sht�rpinj> 'snakes' with introducing one
parasitic /t/.
Jens Rasmussen has argued on this list (very persuasively, in my opinion)
that <sht�rpinj>, unlike <gjarp�r>, is a loan from Latin:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/18589
Piotr