Re: [tied] Re: Latin pinso etc.

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 29649
Date: 2004-01-15

15-01-04 17:13, alex wrote:

> I am afraid it works Piotr.
> there is "gjash-" + the suffix (të) which is to see in Albanian numerlas
> There is "gjarp-" as root for "gjarpër"

By comparing the roots you can easily relate Romanian and Albanian to
Sanskrit, which has <s.as.> and <sarpá-> for 'six' and 'snake'. After
all, Sanskrit is also an IE language. The whole problem is that Romanian
doesn't show those characteristic Albanian suffixes and that those
suffixes are old in Albanian.

> now to the phonetic. There is "s" > "gj" but it works just via "S". One
> cannot have an alteration of "s" directly to "gj"

No, it was *s- > *z- (in stressed syllables) > *z^ > gj-. There was no
*s^ in the chain. At the time of Albano-Romance "symbiosis" the sound
was already voiced.

> It seems I am right here since in both examples we have s+e where it is
> allowed to get the "S"
> From the articulatory point here the Rom. "S" is appropiate to Alb. "gj"
> and not to simply "s".

What are you talking about? The modern articulation? How's that
relevant? Without understanding how these segments were pronounced in
the past and how they have changed you can only produce gibberish.

Piotr