Re: [tied] Tor/Tur/(e)

From: Marco Moretti
Message: 29609
Date: 2004-01-15

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
> m_iacomi wrote:
>
> >> I'm just observing that the element *tur- is all over the place.
> >
> > Which place? Examples?!
> > Outside Germanic area, why on earth should a geographical unit
> > name containing the initial _string of characters_ "tur-" or "tor-
"
> > assigned a particular meaning to that string (as "element"), and
> > further assumed that meaning has to be related to "Thor"?! That
> > sounds pretty bad for usual pertinence standards in linguistics.
> > Not every "tur" ("tor") in the world has something to do with your
> > favorite matching god name (for instance, Romanians have "tur" as
> > legitimate word meaning `trousers' posterior` but I wouldn't
relate
> > it even for a joke with the mighty Thor...).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Marius Iacomi
>
>
> At least the observation with "tur-" as being seen in some
> toponims/hydronims outside of Germanic Space, seems to be correct
even
> if I doubt about any connection with Thor [Turidava, Turla, Turda
(Turda
> is supposed to derive from Turidava if we believe Gammilscheg)]
>
> Rom. "tur"=as downpart of the trousers is considered to be a loan
from
> Serbocroatian.
>
> Alex

All these toponyms and hydronyms deserve deep studies.
No one of them can be connected with Thor, as I already said ad
nauseam.
Dordogne is attested (If I'm not wrong) as Durationa or something
similar.
Rom. "tur" =as downpart of the trousers cannot belong here.

Sincerely

Marco