From: tgpedersen
Message: 29443
Date: 2004-01-12
>also
> Svani was read in another link, but the substance is the same.
> The quote from the link you provided is:
>
> "Kingdom of Vani
> As per Alexeev, the Kingdom of Vani is in existence in the
> seventh/sixth century BC and lasts until the first century AD. This
> kingdom is located in Georgia close to the Black Sea; Vani is also
> the name of a town. This kingdom is influenced by Greece but it
> has its native cultural traditions. Linguists do not know whichwas
> languages were spoken [Arutiunov says the language most probably
> early Zanic];Of which Svan is a member?
>however, inscriptions on gravestones are in Greek. Thisusers.
> site has been excavated for thirty years revealing a great square
> with architecture similar to Greece. The Vani people are metal
> Iron is used for tools, with an occasional implement made ofbronze;
> bronze is considered very valuable. Thus in the early Iron Agethere
> is a mixing of a new tradition of iron with the old tradition ofWhy?
> bronze."
>
> It's very feeble. First we have to know the etymology of the
>toponym
> Vani (a town).
> In any case the Nordic theonym is not locative in its origin:Vanir
> Vanaheimr, Vanaland are clearly derived from a pl. genitive of
> plus /heimr/ and /land/.Irrelevant. The locative origin might have been forgotten and a new
>But what the pre-IE Germanic root wani-And? You have a kingdom of Vani around the corner from the homeland
> meant? I think it was a word for "bright", probably also "divine".
> If I'm not wrong there is an isolated Anglo-Saxon
> word, /wanum/ "bright" that is formed from the same root.
> > >So the matchup is rough.ka/
> > > It is a word with a plain structure, it can be found almost
> > > everywhere.
> > >
> >
> > In that case, please provide three or four.
>
> Hurrite /wan-/ is "to win" (an IE loanword?)
> Pre-IE substratum in Greek /wan-ak-/ is "a prince, a king"
> Etruscan /Van-th/ is a "Fate Goddess" and the sentence /malak van-
> read in one vascular inscription is "good fortune".Of course you can, if you add suffixes. We were talking about /van-/.
> If I had more time I could add a dozen items in /wan(i)-/.
> Perhaps tomorrow I'll make you known if I found some Kartvelian orThat might have been a good place to start.
> other matchups.
>
> Boats are quite common already in ancient times, what is awkward isActually some of the people of those slant-eyed early Greek and
> Maori or Hawaiian presence in prehistoric, pre-IE Sweden.