Re: [tied] Gmc. Place-names & the Pas-de-Calais [was: Transhumance]

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

> 08-01-04 20:05, Brian M. Scott wrote:
>
> >> I still think it unlikely that in the general turmoil of
> >> the landnám there were two separate groups that identified
> >> themselves as 'Beormingas', that would have been
> >> unpractical, to say the least.
> >
> > I don't yet believe in the Continental group of that name.
>
> Even if there had been one, what's so impractical "to say the

least"

> about having two groups with the same name, especially if they live

at a

> safe distance from each other?

Yes, but that was the point: Apparently most of the participants on
the English landnám crossed the Channel at Calais. In other words, it
was perfectly possible for someone in one lifetime to have been near
an *X-inga-ham both in the Pas-de-Calais and in England, and perhaps
even inside them both, if you were one of those *inga-s yourself.

>Such things happen, especially if the
> units in question are clans with names derived from that of an

eponymous

> founder. Same with surnames: not all Pedersens are named after one

and

> the same Peder.
>

No, and that is why when mobility increased in Denmark and all the -
sen's started spending time outside their village, people started
naming them after their villages. It was done in the DSB, the state
railways, and it was still the custom when I was a conscript back in
the 60's.

Torsten