[tied] Re: PIE's closest relatives

So Glen, do you think that we can't really differentiate whether the
northern and western (including Celtic and Germanic) substrate was
Semitic or Berber or any other Afro-Asiatic language(s) for that
matter? Can any non-Indo-European Germanic and Celtic words be shown
to have a Semitic or other Afro-Asiatic etymology?

by the way, I don't drink anymore, I take ritalin! Which makes my
attention span a little less shorter than when I didn't :)

-Michael


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>
wrote:

>
>
> Alexander:
> >Well, the Tartaria tablets appears to be related by some

archeologists

> >with the later writting form of Sumer. And not just Tartaria, but

too

> >some other things found later in Bulgaria.
>
> There is controversy with that. One might just as well say that the
> European scripts are native and that the Sumerian writing was either
> influenced by Tartaria or was a seperate development. Abstract
> patterns were common from earliest times on pottery and religious
> artifacts in Europe.
>
> Regardless of the outcome, this has no bearing on the Sumerian
> language being anywhere near the Indo-European speakers. Going
> on a quasi-writing system is hardly proof of anything. This is why

I'd

> rather play it as safe as I can. If there is a connection with the

two

> words, then that connection must surely be Semitic. There are few
> if any words between IE and Sumerian that one could attempt
> to connect but there is always the possibility of Semitic being the
> intermediary.
>
> I can only think of *kWekWlo- being connected with Sumerian
> /girgir/. However, even so, there is Semitic *galgal- as a potential
> go-between in such an event and IE is in fact built on native
> elements anyway (*kWel- "to roll").
>
> And I just realized. I think that should be *weru-?arDi (not my
> earlier **weri-?arDu). I switched the terminating vocalism of the
> two words. IndoEuropean compounds and Semitic genitives made
> a switch in my swiss cheese brain because *i is typically used at
> the end of the first element of a compound in IE (which turns
> out to be the regular reflex of pretonic MIE *&). Whatever.
> That still yields MIE *eráud&.
>
> Gotta stop the drinking... <:(
>
>
> = gLeN
>
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