From: Mate Kapović
Message: 28954
Date: 2003-12-30
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From: "g" <george.st@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 2:37 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: etyma for Craciun...
> But isn't there a higher frequency of stresses on the
> first syllable in Serbian and Croatian? I'm ignorant
> of Slavic languages, but I hear Serbo-Croatian on a
> daily basis in the streets (incl. spoken by nextdoor
> neighbors). I've got the same impression with Czech
> and Slovakian.
We are talking about Russian from like 10 centuries back and not of Czech
and Slovak. In Serbian and Croatian there are a lot of numerous accentual
systems. Some tend to pool the accent back, like the standard languages but
the you see that the accent was previously on the other syllable because the
retracted accent is rising (not falling). If you have for instance
neoShtokavians for neighbours, they will not have words with end-stress (but
they will have rising accents in the preceding syllable which shows
retraction), if you have speakers of old Shtokavian, Kajkavian, Chakavian or
Torlak as neighbours they will have end stress quite often. It depends.
Czech and Slovak have the accent always on the first syllable but that is an
innovation.
> > Kracˇun would be acceptable with root-stress the same
> > as with final-stress.
>
> In Serbo-Croatian?
In dialects with older accentuation. In standard lg no in nominative because
of stress retraction.
> It'd sound... outlandish (and as though uttered by a
> foreigner).
And thats why Hungarian words are remodeled accentually in Romanian. In
Slavic, there would be no such thing.
Mate