Re: 3

Hello George,
Seems that you are in the same situation as M. Iacomi.

You cannot say 'a correct' 'tri', and you never used it, but you
are an expert in the Romanian NW dialect.

As spelling or writing, I propose you to write it with
as 'triiiii' or 'trijjjj' in place of 'trii' or 'trij', maybe by
adding more 'i' or 'j' the DIPHTONG will appear in this case...

And maybe I and the people there will start to pronounce like you
(or others like you) wrote.

If this will not happens ...of course we are not pronounce as it
is writen by the people that never pronounce it...so will be not
correct, isn't it?

A great part of romanian linguistic was written by the people in
the same situation like you and M. Iacomi (Graur, Iordan, etc...)

Regards,
marius


P.S. : I already saw you messages here regarding the meaning
of 'pom', and its equivalence with 'copac', and the use of 'arbore'
in NW part of the country....now I can add to your skills the
spelling of 'tri'

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, g <george.st@...> wrote:
>
> > >>But in this case, once again, as a NATIVE speaker, I wanted
ONLY
> > >>to say to you and to George (that you are not NATIVE speakers
> > >>of 'tri')
> >
> > He _is_, as all Northern Daco-Romanian speakers.
> >
> > >>that is NO DIPHTONG there...trust me, NO DIPHTONG there, is
> > >>all I can say.
> >
> > ... which leads us to the conclusion you either don't know what
> >the diphthong [iy] is and how it sounds like, or you have a very-
> >very special way of pronouncing the word, not common for the vast
> >majority of native speakers in the area.
>
> "Ai-hai, ma(i) Vasali, / Rupetzi-s'ar arcu'n trii / $i grumazu
ceterii"
> [aj haj m&(j) V&s&'li - 'rupetzIsar 'arkun trij $I
gru'mazu 'ceterij]
> (out of the lyrics of a folk song from Maramure$)
>
> > That's my point. Actually, the few spelling problems in Romanian
> >arise frequently around number of "i"s to be written at the end or
> >even inside the words. People not having well understood
differences
> >between [i] and [y] are the overwhelming majority and they can
argue
> >for a long time on a dimension just missing from their awareness,
> >fanatically backing some erroneous spelling they think justified.
>
> Yep. <sigh!>
>
> > Marius Iacomi
>
> George