Re: 3

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 28239
Date: 2003-12-09

Hello M. Iacomi,

What is strange for me ...is that somebody else that isn't a
NATIVE speaker of 'tri', try to tell me (and to others like me too)
what I 'really' said when I pronounce 'tri'...and if I 'don't
understand' 'their correct spelling' of what 'I pronounced myself',
I'm 'very stupid' or 'illiterate'...and I don't know 'phonetics'...

Strange logic here (but I found this logic very often in today
Romania, applicable to a lot of cases).

I do not consider that I know better than the others (in
contrary, linguistic is a hobby for me, due to my mother, but I have
another job and other studies not related to linguistic), see my
postings on this forum to see how many time I accepted other
opinions, or I came back to correct my opinion when I
wrote 'stupidities' here...It doesn't matter if I'm wrong or You are
right, it is important to find out 'how it really is'...

But in this case, once again, as a NATIVE speaker, I wanted ONLY
to say to you and to George (that you are not NATIVE speakers
of 'tri') that is NO DIPHTONG there...trust me, NO DIPHTONG there, is
all I can say.

But at the end, you can suppose what you want regarding 'tri'...or
anything else, I will not insist any more on this.

Rehartds

P.S. Also you can suppose that '-oi' is never a suffix in
Romanian...


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "m_iacomi" <m_iacomi@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" wrote:
>
> > Same questions for you :
> > Are you a native speaker of 'tri' ?
>
> I am a native listener, with good ears and the phonetics knowledge
> background you're obviously and sadly missing.
>
> > I supposed not, viewing your explanations.
>
> Your supposition in this case is rather "viewing yor explanations,
> I did not understood a iota, so I perseverate with my convictions
> since I surely know better than you do". The correct idea would be
> to get informed in the first place, then understand why both of us
> emphasized the [iy] as undoubtful phonetic reality.
>
> > So, please go there and listen carefully when somebody
say 'TRI'...
>
> Well, I heard that a lot of times. Since Romanian doesn't use "y"
> except some new foreign words, I'd rather transcribe graphically
> the word as "trii". As well as in "prostii" (articulated plural
> of "prostie", no offence intended). Trust me.
>
> Cheers,
> Marius Iacomi