Re: [tied] Re[2]: Romanian Swadesh list

From: alex
Message: 28175
Date: 2003-12-08

g wrote:
> [Here, it is interesting to see the past participles of these
> verbs -- both treated according to the Latin pattern of the IVth
> conjugation, namely a omorî -> omorîre, and a muri -> murire.
> The former has a participle that I'd call a... regular one, <omorît>,
> the latter has two variants: <murit> "died," and <mort>, which is
> used as an adjective, and means "dead".] [So, one sees that in the
> Romance variant the root vowel varies [o<->u], whereas in the
> one influenced by some Slavic idiom there's no [u] whatsoever and
> in no Daco-Romanian subdialect. This in spite of the fact that
> Romanian easily tends to such [o<->u] occurrences. A parallel can
> be seen in another semantic environment, e.g. when pickles are
> <muratzi>, and any such vegetable preserved in such a sour and
> salty liquid is called <muratura> [mu-r&'tu-r&], yet the liquid
> itself is called <moare> (cf. Lat. <muria>), and is almost identic
> with the adapted neologism used in medicine <umoare> <= <humor>.]
>
> George

"omorâ" is not of Slavic origin. It is (I am sure because of vocalism)
of substratual origin.
Ha! A big laugh number. There is a centum language as Latin which make
up itself with a satem language as Slavic on the Romanian field. Find it
out what is what.. find it out. As if it should be the very easiest way
at all....
Alex