Proper methodology (was: RE: [tied] Re: Mother of all IE languages)

From: tgpedersen
Message: 28031
Date: 2003-12-06

> >>The use of a verbal or nominal root is unheard in the personal
pronouns.
> >
> >That's not a reasonable expectation. Not all pronouns may be
replaced by
> >"verbal/nominal roots" in any particular language. However, this
same
> >process _does_ occur in other languages. The immediate example in
my
> >mind is Japanese
>
> Japanese? You know that's not a valid comparison.

Does this mean that Japanese once had pronouns, which were replaced?



> >>If the root were *yeu-, a root noun derived from it should be
*yut-
>
> >>Actually, the root is in my opinion *yeuh1-,
> >
> >It's an "opinion", not fact per se. Since it's safe to say that
*yeu-g-
> >should be grouped with the above root, its existence negates your
> >theory.
>
> What counts is the facts. All apparent cases of *yeu- can be
explained as
> *yeuh1- (Skt. yá:u-ti (*yeuH-ti), yuváti (*yuHé-ti), yu:thá-, yú:na-
. Lith.
> jáutis).
>
> How to interpret the facts is another matter. I think the
alternation
> *yeuh1- ~ *yeug- follows naturally from the uvular hypothesis. If
*yeug-
> was originally *yeuG-, with voiced/glottalized uvular stop /G"/,
such a
> sound has a natural tendency to become fricative (cf. the Kartvelian
> cognate/borrowing *uG-el- "yoke", with velar fricative /G/ < uvular
stop
> /G"/).
>
> Speaking of Caucasian cognates/borrowings, the NE Caucasian word
for "yoke"
> is also interesting: *ruk.(k.)- (Lak ruk., Nakh duq., Dargva *duk.,
> Avar-Andi *ruL.L.V). Compare Armenian <luc> (*lug-). It's
possible that
> Armenian reflects a proto-form *liug-óm, and that we have a doublet
*liúG-
> > *yeug-/*yeuh1- vs. *líuG- > leig- "binden" (Lat. ligare, Hitt.
link-,
> etc.).
>

http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/yug.html
Enjoy!

Torsten