Re: [tied] *st@dhlo

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

> 01-12-03 22:07, etherman23 wrote:
>
> > I've been reading Szemerenyi's Introduction to Indoeuropean
> > Linguistics and I've come upon what appears to be a odd
> > reconstruction. It concerns the word *st@... (stall), and he

only

> > gives Lat. stabulum as a reflex. Two things struck me as odd, the
> > reconstruction of schwa and the reconstruction of dh. If Latin

were

> > the only source language I would expect these sounds to be /a/
> > and /b/ or /bh/.
> >
> > Now my sources are somewhat limited and my knowledge of the
> > historical changes also limited, but I couldn't find any obvious
> > reflexes of *st@... in any language. OTOH, I could find several
> > words that appear to come from something like *stab(h)lo. To make
> > matters worse I consuled two dictionaries and both agree that

Lat.

> > stabulum comes from stare (which of course comes from *sta:).
> > Furthermore I couldn't find st@... in Pokorny's list.
> >
> > So I'm hoping that you experts out there could clear this up for

me.

> > Is there any basis for Szemerenyi's reconstruction? If he is in
> > error, what is the correct reconstruction of the apparent

cognates:

> >
> > English stable
> > Irish stable
> > Greek stablos
> > Latin stabulum (?)
> >
> > Could *st@... be cognate with stadium?
>
> It _is_ related to <sta:re>, as the root of both is *stah2-

(reduction

> grade *st&2-) 'stand'. <stabulum> contains the instrumental suffix
> *-dHlom ~ *-tlom (Lat. -b(u)lum ~ -c(u)lum [sic!]). The Latin word

is

> not isolated: the Germanic cognate is *staþla- < *st&2-tlo- (with

the

> other variant of the suffix), giving OE staþol 'foundation, base,
> trunk', OHG stadal 'barn, storehouse' (hence also Polish stodol/a
> 'barn'). PIE *dH regularly gave Lat. [b] in medial positions when
> followed by [l] (also when followed by [r] or [w], or when preceded

by

> [u] or [r] -- see Szemerényi's phonological chapter), and medial *-

tl-

> was dissimilated to [-kl-].
>
> Piotr

************
Didn't here belongs too Slavic <stablo> 'trunk'?

Konushevci