Re: [tied] Re:

From: alex
Message: 27598
Date: 2003-11-25

m_iacomi wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" wrote:
>
>> Could somebody help me with the derivation of latin <cotoneus>
>> to romanian <gutui>
>
> Lat. "(malum) cotoneus" `quince-tree`, `quince (fruit)` deriving
> from the name Cydonia (city in Crete) is a probable ancestor for
> Romanian "gutui" (`quince tree/fruit`).
>
> cotoneu(m) > *cutun'u/*gutun'u (Common Romanian) > gutui (DRom.)
> Stressed /o/ before /n/ goes regularly to (stressed) /u/ (second).
> Unstressed /o/ yields normally /u/ (first).
> For the ending, the evolution is perfectly similar to
> "calcaneu(s)" > *cãlcãn'u > cãlcâi.

:-)))

You try to explain a irregularity trough an another irregularity making
out a possiblitiy :-))
Against your equivalence of calcaneus/cotoneus > cãlcâi/gutui (beside
the phonetism)
speaks the stress. The word "cãlcâ'i" has the stress on "â", the word
"gutuí" has the stress on "i".


Alex