[tied] Re: All of creation in Six and Seven

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...>
wrote:

>
> Torsten:
> >If a civilisation lives on a river, it travels that river. Period.

Or

> >we would see several independent civilisations.
>
> You can't get from eastern Europe to Palestine just by flowing down
> a river.

No, part of the way is by sea. Thus you need a boat that is capable
of going both both by sea and by river. Not very high tech, I'd say.

>There's also little motivation for any IE speaker to travel so
> far when they can simply trade with the people around them. It's
> cheaper, it's easier and you don't get killed in storms at sea that
>way.

People on boats have stuff on board you can't get from your neighbor.
Why don't you go down to the harbour in Vancouver and tell them to
stop moving those containers on and off ships, since you can get
everything easier, cheaper and safer in the USA and Mexico?

> >I see. Swedish has English loanwords, English has no (very few)
> >Swedish loanwords, therefore there was indeed an intermediary, one
> >that brought cultural and technological innovation into Sweden.

Erh?

>

> So... what you're saying is that because English and Swedish people
> have televisions, telephones and other mass-media devices at their
> disposal that has facilitated this linguistic exchange, you think

that

> IE speakers had similar devices that provided real-time

communication

> with their Semitic counterparts? Erh?

Actually the first 19th century English loans into the Scandinavian
languages mostly had to do with the sea. It was a language known to
sailors and no one else.

>That's quite an imagination
> smorgasbord you've provided us but there's unfortunately little
> food-for-thought to eat here.
>
>
> >And they had no boats?
>
> Again, boats travelling in-land?

Ri-vers. You _are_ being really dense today.

>Not a likely trip for that time-period. The
> same problem with the IE: Why would Semitic people travel so far
> when they could trade with their direct neighbours?

And the same obvious answer.

>
>
> >You should not let the word 'Wanderwörter' delude you into

thinking that

> >words have feet and need land to transport themselves. Some sail.
>
> Just as long as you're not swayed into thinking that people had
> nothing better to do in the good ol' days than to sail insane
> distances just to spread wanderwords.

To trade. Hello-o?

> I ignored the inane list you ranted after that. The remainder of

your

> post had no scientific merit nor anything to do with IE.
>

By contraposition the rest of it did have some? You are getting out
of shape.

Torsten