More Rough Sounds (was: -kt-)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
wrote:

> At 4:55:31 PM on Tuesday, November 18, 2003, Richard
> Wordingham wrote:
>
> > The problem is that the vowel in English has become lower
> > and more central than IPA [V], and the IPA symbol for the
> > current vowel is the one traditionally used for the
> > Received Pronunciation (RP) of "bird". If I'd written
> > [r3f], I'd have caused confusion.
>
> The current vowel is written [V] in the transcription of
> American English in the Handbook of the IPA. It's a little
> lower than [3]; in fact, Ladefoged puts it just about at
> turned-a.

This practice is naughty; if one looks at the chart at
http://www.i-foo.com/~kturtle/misc/xsamchart.gif , one will see that
[V] is the unrounded equivalent of [O]. My [r3_of] seems a little
bit Northern, but even fewer would have understood me if I'd written
[r6f].

Richard.