Re: Older Dacian zone in Balkans = Later Latin zone in Balkans

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "S & L" <mbusines@...> wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: alexandru_mg3
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003
> Subject: Re: [tied] Older Dacian zone in Balkans = Later Latin zone

in

> Balkans
>
> ... based on the toponyms Moesia
> is a Daco-Getae region with some Thracian penetrations. ...
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> OR a Thracian region with some Daco-Getae penetrations .
>
> In 11-12 AD, roman general Sextus Aelius Catus [as governor of

Macedonia? He

> was consul in 4 AD with C./Gaius Sentius Saturninus] displaced from

N of

> Danube 50.000 people/Getae [see Strabo, Geography, VII, 3, 10] <<a

tribe

> with the same tongue as the Thracians [see 7. 3. 2: <<Now the

Greeks used to

> suppose that the Getae -ie Daco-Getae- were Thracians; and the

Getae lived

> on either side the Ister, as did also the Mysi, these also being

Thracians

> and identical with the people who are now called Moesi>>. & also

7.5.1]. And

> they live there in Thrace [ie lower Moesia] now and are

called "Moesi">>

> The action was repeated under Nero, between 62-66 AD, when 100.000

people

> [ie Daco-Getae; with their wife's, children, kings] were displaced

by

> general Tiberius Plautius Silvanus Aelius.
>

That's the type of event that would create a koine in a very short
time from the various dialects of various settled populations. Once
this creole koine is created it spreads (since it represents a common
reference in contact situations).

Torsten