Re: [tied] All of creation in Six and Seven

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:03:30 +0100, Piotr Gasiorowski
> <piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
>
> >What do you make of the curious fact that *septm. is _consistently_

stressed

> >on the syllabic nasal in IE? (Indo-Iranian, Greek, Albanian and Germanic

all

> >confirm this odd pattern.)
>
> Whatever the reason for that, I doubt it has anything to do with the

source

> of the borrowing. I'm not sure where the stress fell in PS *sab`atu(m),
> but PIE *septm. is consistent with an original (pre-zero-grade) stress
> pattern *<sébVtVm> -> *<séptm.>. Only after zero grade was the stress
> shifted to the final syllable. A similar case, but of stress retraction,
> must be *<wl.kWós> -> *<wl.'kWos>.
>
> Obvious sources for analogy are absent (ennéa, déka / náva, dás'a do not
> have the stress on the syllabic nasal).

But októ: has the end stress. If PS had the stress as in Arabic, as some
presume, this would be in accordance with the reduction in PIE (the end
stress would have to be an innovation). It seems highely unlikely to me that
the desinence stress of *septm could be the original one.
Piotr mentioned that Albanian also points to the accent on the final *-m.
Does that mean that we can (sometimes?) use Albanian as well for the
reconstruction of PIE accent and not only Vedic, Greek and Germanic (and
BSl)? I would like to see more examples, if possible, thanks.

Mate