Re: Re[2]: [tied] Glen, regarding...

From: Patrick C. Ryan
Message: 26320
Date: 2003-10-10

Dear Joao:

 

----- Original Message -----
From: João Simões Lopes Filho
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [tied] Glen, regarding...

Eh eh, this is a circular definition: Latino is everyone who consider themselves as Latino. Would it include Brazilians? The definition states that is aplicable to Spanish-language countries, which would automatically exclude Brazilians, but if a Brazilian consider himself as a Latino it will be a Latino. By this circular definition , if Swedes identify themselves as Latinos, they will be Latinos. Amazing.
 
<PCR> Amazing? It is pathetic. But there is logic behind it all. The primary force guiding "definitions" is the desire by certain American business interests to ensure a steady supply of cheap, hapless labor. And the continuing flood of immigrants is designed to exert pressure on the already residing illegal immigrants not to get uppity, and actually demand a living wage.
 
I have serious doubts about the integrity of anyone who would accept a US government agency definition for anything since facts or truth play no part in them whatsoever.
 
Joao SL
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:01 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [tied] Glen, regarding...

At 10:09:23 PM on Wednesday, October 8, 2003, Patrick C.
Ryan wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Miguel Carrasquer" <mcv@...>

>> Define "Latino".

> <PCR> In the politically correct USA, Latino is the
> favored term to designate Mexican Amerindians, who speak
> Spanish (even as a second language).

> It is sometimes extended to Amerindians from other
> countries who speak Spanish.

This is wildly inaccurate.  Here's what the U.S. Census
Bureau says:

  Hispanics or Latinos are those people who classified
  themselves in one of the specific Spanish, Hispanic, or
  Latino categories listed on the Census 2000 questionnaire
  -"Mexican, Mexican Am., Chicano," "Puerto Rican", or
  "Cuban" -as well as those who indicate that they are
  "other Spanish/Hispanic/Latino." Persons who indicated
  that they are "other Spanish/Hispanic/Latino" include
  those whose origins are from Spain, the Spanish-speaking
  countries of Central or South America, the Dominican
  Republic or people identifying themselves generally as
  Spanish, Spanish-American, Hispanic, Hispano, Latino, and
  so on.

Everyday usage varies but certainly does not restrict the
term to Mexican Americans; the traditional term for them is
<Chicano, -a>.

Brian




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