Re: [tied] Timing of ablaut

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 12:03:19 +0100, P&G <petegray@...> wrote:

>But what about the rather unlikely root *wortoko "quail" P1180 Skt vartaka-
>(m) vartika: (f) ?

Well, the forms adduced by Pokorny do not really justify a reconstruction
*wortoko (vartaka-, vartika:, Grk. ortux). The quality of the second vowel
is not clear.

>And what of the Avestan gava "hands" Pok 403 (< *gow&)? I confess, I don't
>even know if Brugmann's Law applies to Avestan.

Yes, it does (but the picture is not as clear as in Sanskrit, given that
etymological /a/ is sometimes written <a:> in Avestan, and etymological
/a:/ sometimes as <a>). Avestan <gava> is a dual, so properly /gava:/ [an
example of the ambiguity of Avestan spelling], presumably from *gowh2-oh3
(closed syllable).

>>If we look in Pokorny, we
>>see no Indo-Iranian reflexes for ...
>Nor for *kob fit, *gol branch, *k'olemos rod, *kol(e)y lime, *kom beside,
>*log' rod
>
>>and we have only the
>>closed-syllable variants of ...
>And of *sol(e)wo safe (Skt sarva)

Yes, but those are all examples of *o most likely _not_ to be from *h3e,
and therefore complementary to the examples of *h3e that I was failing to
find in Indo-Iranian.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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