Re: [tied] Re: Pagan, heathen: Are these lexemes synonyms?

Abdullah Konushevci wrote:

>> So, the only jn~a_ni-s are non-pagans, christians?
> ************
> I guess that in the word <heath> should have impact <heat>, which, I
> am afraid, was motivation of Alb. <vapë> 'heat' from PIE root *wap-
> 'evil, bad' (<evil> is derived from suffixed zero-grade form of this
> root *up-elo (see Watkins, wap-).
> Nasalized form of this root is *wamp-, which could derives suffixed
> form <vampir> 'devil', common word in East Europe and South Europe.
> It's quite interesting that this word is used in connection with
> _evil_: <vapë e dreqit> 'evil's heat'. There are in Albanian, I
> guess, folk etymology of this word <dhampirës> 'sucking teeth', but I
> beleive that have much to deal much more with regular alternation v-
> /th-.
> Any suggestions?
>
> Konushevci

I can just give you some suplimantary infos from Rom.
For Alb. "vapë" there is Rom. "vãpaie" with a lot of derivatives, even
prefixed with "s". There is too the expresion "vãpaia dracului" which is
the same as Alb. "vapë e dreqit", the meaning being the same "evil's
heat".
For Vampir there is just "vampir" but I don't remember the word being
used in folk. In Rom. Lang this seems to be a neologisms. The words used
for "vampir" are strigoi, moroi, and such stuff, nothing related with
the phonetical construction of "vampir".
The word "zamfir" has at the first view no connection for the sense of
"dhampir" since it means "safire" or "oriole" and its etymology ( just
for the meaning "safire") is given as from Slavic "samfirU"; for the
meaning "oriole" there is an unknown etymology.

Question: does the stop after "m" not become a sonor one as after "n" in
Alb.?

Alex