Germanic hl- etc. (was: to yelp)

From: Richard Wordingham
Message: 25248
Date: 2003-08-22

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex_lycos" <altamix@...> wrote:
> But I am not aware of an "hl" in german, but "kl" likeklingen,
> klinken, kleben ( see slavic "lepati"(?), rom. "lipi") and so on.
> It can be they are not related to each other.

As I don't see any direct replies, let me answer the general point.
The oldest Germanic languages *do* have hl-. For example, from the
PIE root *kleu- we have Old English and Old Saxon _hlu:d_, Modern
English _loud_, Dutch _luid_; Old High German (OHG) _hlu:t_, German
_laut_. Cognates include Greek _kluein_ 'hear', _kleos_ 'glory'
(cf. Heracles), OCS _slava_ 'glory', _slovo_ 'word', Sanskrit
_s'ru_ 'hear'. For another example, look at the inscription form
the Gallehus horn.

For hn-, we have OE _hnutu_, OHG _(h)nuz_, Old Norse _hnot_ 'nut'.
The cognates are not so good - Old Irish _cnu:_, Welsh _cneuen_
(singulative of _cnau_ 'nuts'), Latin _nux_, _nuc-_.

For hr-, we have OE _hre:aw_, OS _hra:o_, OHG _(h)ra:o_, ON _hrár_,
all relating to uncooked meat, as in the derived English
word 'raw'. This derives from the root *kreu-, which relate to
bloody meat - OCS _krUvI_ 'blood', Greek _kreas_ 'flesh, meat'.

Richard.