Re: Crows and Garlands

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham"
<richard.wordingham@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:07:05 +0200, alex <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
> >
> > >a cununa = to wed
> > >cununã = crown
> > >cununie= the crowns used for religious wedding, the religios
> wedding
> >
> > cf. Russ. venec "crown, marriage", venchat' "to crown",
> venchat'sja "to get
> > married", venchanie "coronation, marriage". A calque from Slavic.
> >
> > >nun= best man for the wedding
> > >nuneascã= the dance of the best man at the wedding
> >
> > >Are they related somehow?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > >The family of words which are derived from "coroanã" (crow)
> > >coroana, incorona, incoronat, coronate (arhaism), coroniTã
> >
> > are later borrowings from Latin, that entered the language after
> the
> > working of the soundlaw /ón/ > /ún/, but before/during the
> activity of the
> > soundlaw /ó...a/ > /oá...ã/.
>
> And after the merger of unstressed /o/ and /u/.
>
> I take it a loan directly from Greek is ruled out? (Latin coro:na
> is derived from Greek koro:ne:.)
>
> I had been contemplating a blend of Latin coro:na with its
> diminutive corolla (attested as 'small garland') to give *coro:la.
> That would have yielded Romanian *curoara. Does Romanian have any
> trace of Latin corvus 'crow' (cf. French corbeau, from Proto-

Romance

> *corbellus) or corni:cem (acc.) 'raven', or corni:cula 'little

crow'?

I can't find this little group in Torsten's k-r- words! They are
related by the curve of a corvid's beak. Latin _corvus_ also means
some type of hook.

Richard.