Re: The indo european "race"

From: John
Message: 25005
Date: 2003-08-08

David wrote

> Nations are abstracts. They can't feel self-importance,
> Only human individuals are capable of that. Not all of
> the citizens of the U.S. feel self-important, nor or all
> Canadians _free_ of self-importance, as your post showed,
> and which was my point.

You are certainly right, nations are abstracts, and yet we continue
to portray them as "fictive individuals", just like we
accord "Corporations" with "Rights" as if they were an individual.
This is certainly the case taken in International Law.

> Nations can't be swayed, only individuals can. I'm not
> swayed by any propoganda, nor is my family, nor are most
> of the people I know. Are we all long lost Canadians?

Perhaps you are ;-) After having seen "Bowling for Columbine" I am
surprised that a lot more people in the US are not fast becoming
present day Canadians.

> I don't owe the UN anything.

As a citizen of the state that signed that UN Charter, until the USA
withdraws from the UN, you, and all other US citizens are bound by
the agreement made by your government in your name. Otherwise the
Charter will not be worth anything at all and might as well shut up
shop, and we can revert to good old international anarchy.

> I didn't vote for him, and I'm not a Roman Catholic.
> Almost 50%, maybe more, of the population who voted,
> didn't vote for him either.

It was more than 50% of the population which voted against President
Shrub, which was less than 50% of those eligable to vote. Which
makes more than 75% of the population probably did not want George
Bush as president... and yet the country's leaders try to teach the
rest of us about democracy... As Montesqieu said "nations get the
governments they deserve"....

> > which forces poor people to pay for their health care,
>
> Why shouldn't one pay for any goods or services they use?
> Should doctors be required to work for free? Should I,
> who take care of my health, be coerced to pay the bills
> of those who don't? Socialism failed, but more important
> than its ineffectiveness is the fact that it is coercive
> and immoral. That's why your health care system gets
> worse everyday, and why you have chronic unemployment
> and outrageously high taxes. Look at the socialist
> countries of Europe to see your future.

Hmm.... You mean to say that the US Health Care system is not having
an even worse crisis? By depending exclusively upon a marget
mechanism to meet human needs for health, you are just redistributing
people's access to goods and services proportional to their
purchasing power - the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Its
the old "golden rule of economics" - those who have the gold get to
make the rules - a plutocracy rather than a democracy. And that is
both immoral - and is failing - almost as fast as did Totalitarian
Communism.

Hey folks - lets get back to linguistics here, because we could
degenerate into a political free-for-all.

Regards

John