Re: [tied] Fwd: PIE for wash

From: tgpedersen
Message: 24950
Date: 2003-08-04

> > > > > > Latin
> > > > > > muscus
> > > > >>Proto-Germanic *waskan
> > > > > > 'wash',
> > > > > I take it then that these are indeed the
> > > > > only forms for *m-sk and *w-sk.
> >
> > > I recall it as being *mozg-. I'll go check.
> >
> > PIE *mus-o- 'moss, bog' is decently attested (Slavic *mUxU,
Germanic
> > *musa-), and *mus-ko- is just a suffixed variant of that.
>
> Pokorny cites some Slavonic forms in -zg-. The complete papagraph,
> under Root 1309 _meu_ 'wet; dirt; to wash' reads:
>
> 5. Mit formantischem Guttural: lat. muscus m. `Moos'; norw. dial.
> musk `Staub, feiner Regen, Dunkelheit', da"n. dial. musk
`Schimmel',
> mndl. mosch, mosse ds.; aksl.; muzga (*mouz-ga:) `Lake, Weiher',
> russ. mzgnutü `verderben', mozgnutü `abmagern', abg. múz^diti
> `schwa"chen', russ. mozgú `regnerisches Wetter', moz^s^itü
> `einweichen'.
>
> If we accept Pokorny's analysis, the alleged Nostratic root deduced
> from PIE 'm-sk, w-sk' is composed of nothing but PIE suffixes!
>

Here it is:
Koivulehto: Uralische Evidenz für die Laryngaltheorie, p 113

ural. *mos´ki_- "waschen" ... aus idg *mozg- (ablautend zu idg. *mezg-
"untertauchen")..
Sanskrit majjáyati "versenkt, taucht unter"
Lith. mazgóti, mazgóju "tauche mehrfach ein, wasche" < PIE *mozg-
eye/o-


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