Re: [tied] Roots of Bharatiya Civilization

GK,

I have benefited a lot from participation in the Cybalist group in
understanding the intricacies of the language problem, which is a
major facet of the civilization issue. The jury is still out. The
work presents a perspective which has to be critically reviewed by
members of this learned group. Language and epigraphs are presented
in two volumes; the coverage can be seen from the table of contents.

Yes, GK, what is not said in the R.gveda is not important. What is
said there is. I think, despite over 150 years of linguistic work,
we have not even scratched the surface of what is said in 11,000
r.ca-s. After all, it is one of the few recorded documents we have.
The mleccha - vra_tya - vis'vakarma language of the civilization as
it unravels will result in a plate tectonics in understanding the
substratum roots of the 25 + languages placed in a dialectical
continuum in the present-day India and neighbourhood.

Regards. Kalyanaraman

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
>
> --- "S.Kalyanaraman" <kalyan97@...> wrote:
> > A 7-volume encyclopaedic work on Sarasvati is being
> > released on 2
> > September 2003. The work is a search for the roots
> > of Bharatiya
> > Civilization. An overview
> >
> > http://www.hindunet.org/saraswati/roots1.pdf
>
> *****GK: If I have not misunderstood (which is always
> possible) the contention in the abbreviation of these
> volumes is that Northwest India is the Indo-European
> homeland, whence significant outward migrations began
> ca. 2500 BCE, intensifying along with the alleged
> desiccation of the Sarasvati r. (completed ca. 1500
> BCE). I'm sure our linguists will have something to
> say (if they have not already said it) about the view
> that the Harappan script has been successfully
> deciphered. As for archaeology and history, it would
> be interesting to be told just how the Scythians and
> Sarmatians, as well as the Baltoslavs, Celts, Greeks,
> Italics and other West European populations can be
> shown to be the result (even partly) of these
> postulated migrations. BTW I don't find the notion
> that the Rigveda makes no mention of any in-migration
> of IE-speakers to be an important argument for the
> autochthonic position. The Scythian Foundation Legend
> preserved by Herodotus (unfortunately all that is left
> of a no doubt substantial body of vanished Scythian
> oral history) also asserts their autochthonic origin,
> some 200 YEARS after their arrival. And we know just
> how "true" {i.e. untrue) that is (was), even to the
> ancient Greeks. Do the math. If the IE speakers
> reached India in the mid- 2nd millennium BC or
> slightly earlier, they could easily begin to see
> themselves as autochthons well before the end of that
> millennium, transferring this perspective to their
> sacred ritual songs. Which of course is in no way a
> denial of the antiquity and grandeur of the
> civilization these newcomers inherited.******
>
>
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