Re: [tied] egnis/ognis

20-07-03 10:52, alex wrote:

> Agni. The Indic word for fire. I always wondered if from this very word
> of Indoeuropeans is something preserved in Rom.
> An it is.In Rom. the group "gn" > "mn" see Latin "cognatus" > Rom.
> "cumnat".
>
> In this order there should be a word like "amni" in Rom. and it should
> mean "fire". Is there a such word? No. but there is "amnar"= a piece of
> steel wich is used for knocking the flint for making fire. The
> composition is usual root + suff. "-ar".
>
> thus egnis/ognis > amn(V) + ar > amnar, thus the word "amnar" is the
> reflex of the IE word
>
> Accepted etymology of amnar cf. DEX:
>
> amnar, reg. amânar; from Latin "manuale".
>
> Observation: The Rom. form is like the Indik and Hittite , where the /e/
> or /o/ from egnis/ognis became /a/ ( see Indik "agni/-h", hittite
> "Agnis")
>
> Question: how is usualy explained the lost of "s" in compositum? For
> instance, if "amnar" should have been a very ancient composition, them
> the "amnisar" should be the expected form amnis +ar > amnisar.
> But there is no trace of "s", thus there is the question. Was "s" elided
> in compositions or the explanation should be the "s" was lost very long
> time ago before the suffix "-ar" was added?

So you invent a ridiculous pseudo-etymology, you see a ridiculous
pseudo-problem with it, and you ask _other people_ for a solution? Oh,
no... Use your brains and invent a ridiculous pseudo-solution on your own.

OK, let somebody else explain things to Alex. I'll be away till
Thursday. Have fun, everybody.

Piotr