Re: [tied] languages documented (Alex) (it was: substratum)

From: Michael J Smith
Message: 23911
Date: 2003-06-26

Glen,
would you relate Tartessian to these "Tyrhennian" languages?

-Michael

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 19:12:28 +0000 "Glen Gordon"
<glengordon01@...> writes:
>
> >In which type of script are eteo-cypriot and eteo-cretan
> documented?
> >What about Camunic (I have never heard about)?
>
> Camunic was written basically in the same script as Etruscan and is
> related to it. Rhaetic and Lemnian also are related to Camunic.
> There is a link on my site under "Tyrrhenian" to a site that
> displays
> known Camunic texts. It would appear that Camunic is "documented"
> if we were to call these texts "documents".
>
>
> >From this point of view Tracian and Dacian are attested but not
> documented,
> >Pelasgian is also attested but not documented, but the
> pre-indoeupean
> >languages of central Spain are nor attested neither documented.
> With this
> >difference in mind what are de answers to the following questions:
> >
> >(1) Are Eteo-cypriot and Eteo-cretan documented?
> >(2) Are Cymmerian attested?
>
> Eteo-Cypriot was written in a "Linear" syllabary and there is a
> bilingual
> text
> dated to 600 BCE with Attic Greek accompanying it. It is presumed
> that both
> languages are saying basically the same thing (aside from the last
> sentence
> in
> the Eteo-Cypriot side which doesn't appear to me to be mirrored on
> the
> Greek side). My personal opinion is that Eteo-Cypriot firmly relates
> to the
> Tyrrhenian languages because of the vocabulary and morphology that
> the
> text displays. It would appear "documented".
>
> Eteo-Cretan is found on Crete during the century 6/5 BCE. Since
> there
> are Eteo-Cretan inscriptions hanging around... I'd dare say that
> Eteo-Cretan
> is yet another "documented" language, even if we can't read what it
> says
> yet. (I'm working on it. Give me a couple of months :P)
>
> We even find talk of Tartessian inscriptions found in Eastern Spain.
> If
> we interpret "inscription" to mean "document" then, yet again, we
> have
> another documented "Old Europa" language that Alex denies exists
> because
> it doesn't fit his falsifiable Greek-Latin view. Tartessian
> inscriptions are
> viewable here for your enjoyment:
>
> http://www.proel.org/alfabetos/tartesio.html
>
> Camunic, Tartessian, Eteo-Cretan and Eteo-Cypriot make four
> documented
> languages that are not in any shape or form Greek or Latin. Hooray!
>
>
> = gLeN
>
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