Re: [tied] Re: substratum

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 23796
Date: 2003-06-24

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 09:37:05 +0000, m_iacomi <m_iacomi@...> wrote:

>--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
>
>> [...] The substrate of Romanian is Albanian.
>
> According to whom?
> AFAIK, Romanian substrate is Daco-Moesian (or North-Thracian, as
>some people label it).
> "Latin element from Romanian has undoubtedly a Thracian substrate,
>whether one admits or not continuity [theory]" (Carlo Tagliavini -
>Le origini delle lingue neolatine).

A large number of Romanian substrate words have parallels in Albanian.
I don't know any Daco-Moesian, so I can't say much about that.

When we say that Castilian has a Basque substrate, what is actually meant
is that the substrate was a language X, close to the language that was to
become modern Basque 2000 years later (language X can't be the language
that *was* to become modern Basque, because the speakers of language X
became Romanized, and adopted the language that became Castilian). We
might say the substrate language was Aquitanian (or "South-Aquitanian"),
because a few words in ("North") Aquitanian are actually attested from 2000
years ago, but the Aquitanian evidence is much less helpful than modern
Basque.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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