Re[2]: [tied] Re: Creole Romance? [was: Thracian , summing up]

At 3:54:35 PM on Monday, June 23, 2003, alex wrote:

> Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:28:25 +0000, tgpedersen
>> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>>> Basically, you have the same situation everywhere in the
>>> Roman empire as in the British or French: after initial
>>> confusion the elite learns proper Latin (English,
>>> French), which then percolates down. The question is
>>> when this process was stopped

>> It stopped when everybody spoke Latin as their native
>> tongue.

> I guess you intend to speak here not about Latin but about
> an "Verkehrssprache".

No. Latin.

> I am not sure if the translation in english should be
> correct, but it will be something like "traffic language".

The English equivalent is 'lingua franca'.

> The so-called "substratum" is an argument against people
> speaking Latin as their mother language.

Absolutely not. It wouldn't be a substratum if they hadn't
had Latin as their mother tongue.

Brian