Re: [tied] Thracian , summing up

From: tgpedersen
Message: 23717
Date: 2003-06-23

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "P&G" <petegray@...> wrote:
> > >From Latin as Muttersprache to Protoromanian should be some 200-
300
> > years.
> ...> As analyst, do you expect to see the same language which in 2-
300 years
> > became ( supposed) an another language ( Latin > ProtoRomanian)
for not
> > changing in the next 1000 or 1500 years ?
>
> Alex, why not look at what happened in French, Spanish, Italian
etc. If you
> date your "proto-Romanian" to about 600 AD, what is going on with
the
> western Romance languages at that time?
>
> And guess what you discover? Charlemagne has to ban the
pronunciation
> /Santer/ (roughly like modern French) and insist on /kantare/ for
the
> "Latin" word cantare. The situation you find unbelievable is close
to what
> we see in the West.
>
> You know that Latin is itself constantly changing, and the Romance
languages
> derive from the spoken form, not the classical form. The roots of
these
> languages go back to some time BC - so it's more time than you seem
to
> think.
>
I think I will be advocatus Alexi here: There are two types of events
in the history of any Romance language:

1) a pidginisation and creolisation phase, in which an adult
population learns the new language Latin

2) a phase of continuous and regular development after that (mostly)

Most accounts of Romance languages stress only type 2 developments.

Torsten