Re: [tied] Thracian , summing up

18-06-03 21:10, altamix wrote:

> Summing up :
>
> Since we discussed a lot of points about Dacians, Thracians , their
> possible linguistic descendants, authors who wrote about this
> subjects beginning with Tomascheck and ending with Georgiev and
> Duridanov, I try to sum up as follow:
>
> - the Albanians are linguistically maybe the lonely descendants of
> the Dacians or Thracians

True, IMO, with emphasis on Dacian.

> - the Dacian/Thracian language was a satem Language,

Plural: the Dacian and Thracian languages were Satem. So is Albanian.

> - the Dacian / Thracian shows the biggest similitude with Baltic
> languages specially Lithuanian

False. There are some lexical similarities (like half-conjectural Dacian
meda- 'forest' : Lith. medz^ias, OPr. median), but most of them look
like shared archaisms and I can't see any systematic evidence of
particular closeness.

>
> Question of summing up for the actuality time of the XXI century:
>
> - which is the similarity of Albanian language with the Baltic
> languages, specially with Lithuanian? Is there any study about
> the "sprachbund" of Albanian/Baltic? Is there any traceable paths for
> showing that one and the same language, or the dialects of it derived
> in Albanian of today and Lithuanian of today? Is there anything which
> can be compared with the "common thesaurus" which is found in
> Romanian and Albanian only?

There may have been a time when languages ancestral to Dacian and
Thracian were neighbours of Proto-Balto-Slavic. The early merger of *a
and *o, the treatment of *sr- > *str- (as in Slavic and Germanic but
only partly in Baltic) and certain Albanian/Balto-Slavic lexical
correspondences suggest such an areal configuration. On the other hand,
Albanian shows equally good evidence of old sprachbund connections with
the ancestors of Greek, Armenian and Indo-Iranian.

Piotr

I found in Duridanov's study few valuable sources of informaton,as the Ezero inscription, the people-names and part of the place-names, but in his reconstructed words based on Baltic languages there are none of the words from the Ezero inscription or those that survived in the Bulgarian toponymy and anthroponomy. His study is based on hypothetical words that were established based on a language of a different IE family and a preconceived idea. In this situation of course there is a lexical correspondence. Even more they appear to be genetically related for which we don't have any certain evidence. 

Lisa

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