Re: [tied] Thracian , summing up

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 23564
Date: 2003-06-19

18-06-03 21:10, altamix wrote:

> Summing up :
>
> Since we discussed a lot of points about Dacians, Thracians , their
> possible linguistic descendants, authors who wrote about this
> subjects beginning with Tomascheck and ending with Georgiev and
> Duridanov, I try to sum up as follow:
>
> - the Albanians are linguistically maybe the lonely descendants of
> the Dacians or Thracians

True, IMO, with emphasis on Dacian.

> - the Dacian/Thracian language was a satem Language,

Plural: the Dacian and Thracian languages were Satem. So is Albanian.

> - the Dacian / Thracian shows the biggest similitude with Baltic
> languages specially Lithuanian

False. There are some lexical similarities (like half-conjectural Dacian
meda- 'forest' : Lith. medz^ias, OPr. median), but most of them look
like shared archaisms and I can't see any systematic evidence of
particular closeness.

>
> Question of summing up for the actuality time of the XXI century:
>
> - which is the similarity of Albanian language with the Baltic
> languages, specially with Lithuanian? Is there any study about
> the "sprachbund" of Albanian/Baltic? Is there any traceable paths for
> showing that one and the same language, or the dialects of it derived
> in Albanian of today and Lithuanian of today? Is there anything which
> can be compared with the "common thesaurus" which is found in
> Romanian and Albanian only?

There may have been a time when languages ancestral to Dacian and
Thracian were neighbours of Proto-Balto-Slavic. The early merger of *a
and *o, the treatment of *sr- > *str- (as in Slavic and Germanic but
only partly in Baltic) and certain Albanian/Balto-Slavic lexical
correspondences suggest such an areal configuration. On the other hand,
Albanian shows equally good evidence of old sprachbund connections with
the ancestors of Greek, Armenian and Indo-Iranian.

Piotr