[tied] Re: Historical implications of Romanian ecclesiastical term

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 23521
Date: 2003-06-18

About your question, I like to give a reference: Eqrem Çabej: "Roum.
CRAICIUN "NOEL" in "Studii si cercetari lingvistice XII No 3/1961,
pp. 313-317. There are discussed all variants, even Slavic ones.
There is just missing my etymology.

Konushevci
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--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
>
> --- George <george.st@...> wrote:
> >
> > >I think that the word "kraciun" must has pre-Slavic
> > origin,
> >
> > I suppose in the Slavic world there is a Summer
> > kratchun too
> > (solstice rites).
> >
> > >because it is also present in Albanian as <kërcuni>
> > `tree-stump;
>
> *****GK: Ukrainian "kortsh", meaning (1) uprooted tree
> stump; (2) "bush" "hedge". "vykortshuvaty" meaning
> "clearing" an area by uprooting trees, plants, bushes
> et sim.. Is this the same word or just an accidental
> convergence?******
> >
> > It must be related to Romanian and Bulgarian crac
> > (plur. craci),
> > cracã (plur. crãci), crengã ("twig, branch") and
> > krak respectively.
> >
> > >In fact, it is prefixed form, formed by Alb. prefix
> > kër-/gër- and
> > >Alb. word <cung> `tree-stump, stub',
> >
> > kër + çung might be rather a local, Albanian
> > interpretation, that
> > might have nothing to do with the real etymology of
> > the word.
> > After all, if it were a prefixed çung, why isn't
> > there *kërçung?
> >
> > OTOH, for Romanian and Slavic languages must have
> > been highly
> > improbable to make a kra- out of kër.
> >
> > >Konushevci
> >
> > George
> >
> >
>
>
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