[tied] Re: Nominative: A hybrid view

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<a_konushevci@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Jens Elmegaard Rasmussen

<jer@...>

> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
> >
> > > ************
> > > Taking in consideration the declination of other Albanian

names:

> (g.)
> > > grue, (t.) grua, pl. gratë 'women'; (g.) krue, (t.) krua, pl.
> > > kroje 'wells', where -j- is euphonic sound; fyell, pl.
> > > fyje 'flutes', I dare say that in cases of dorë, pl. (g.)

duer,

> (t.)
> > > duar 'hands' and derë, pl. dyer, we have to deal not with dual
> > > marker *-e, but with the cases of singularized plurals.
> >
> > Could you explain how that is meant? Why would 'hand' have *-e:-
> and
> > 'door' *-o:- in their plurals? What evidence do you have in mind?
> >
> > Jens
> ************
> I doubt that Alb. <dorë> and <derë> are indeed singularized

plurals,

> because they behave like other names in diphthong /ue/, /ye/,
> monophthongized their diphtong to /o/ and /e/ (sing. <krue>, pl.
> <kroje>, sing. <përrue>, pl. <përroje>, sing. <fyell>, pl. <fyje>)
> use their loosed singulars duer, dyer ended in closed syllable,
> unable to make new derivations, I guess that <dorë> and <derë> was
> their real plural and they behave so in many compouand names or
> construction with the meaning of plurals. Examples: Kam dorë të
> mirë 'to be skillfull with one's hands'.
> As far as I know, until now these irregular plurals didn't get any
> good answer, so I just make an atemption to give some new ideas.

In meanwhile, I take in consideration also the name <krye> 'head'
and plural form <krena> 'heads' and <nyjë> 'knot' and
<nen> 'article', probably plular form of the first word.
So, I think that their etymologies must be revised or seen in
another light.

Regards,
Konushevci