Re: [tied]ulak ( it was Re: Julius Klaproth)

From: alex
Message: 23086
Date: 2003-06-11

george.st@... wrote:

> (As QIptchaq (the personification of the Cumans) grew big
> and migthty, the countries Urus, Ulak, Magar and Bashqurd
> became enemies and refused allegiance. Then [Oguz-khan]
> offered KIpchaK numerous people and nöker [soldiers] and
> ordered him he should go in the Don and Volga areas and
> to make them obey.)
>
> The Ulaks in this story can't have been them Vlachs, since
> the latter didn't reach the banks of the rivers of Don and
> Volga until recent, Soviet, times.
that is a bit topsy-turvy here. If we agree that the Russians (Urus)
could be in the neighbourhood of Don and Volga, not the same can be said
about country of Magar. Just if we assume that the country of Magar is
not the actualy one. If one can shows there is a story about an another
country of the Hungarians, then it remains just to explain who is the
people called "Ulak".

If the chornicle speaks about the actual country of Hungarians, then it
can be just understood the KipchaK went far away from Don, went west for
reaching the country of Magyars. And if they did it, then the apparition
of Ulaks in the environment of the story, fits; even today they are in
the same region with Hungarians.

Alex