Re: [tied] Re: rothacism in Albanian

From: alex
Message: 22933
Date: 2003-06-09

Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
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> From: "alex" <alxmoeller@...>
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> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: rothacism in Albanian
>
>
>> I am puzzled by many questions here Piotr, but they are not because
>> of the
> examples given, they aer because of many words wich are similar.
> Look, we take for instance Albanyan "man" = njeri. Is there any
> counterpart of it in Romanian? Sure! this is there . If we
> "degenerate" the Albanian word we see ( with rhotacism) as follow:
> njeri < nere > nene
>
> Ah, so you _don't_ understand. This particular Albanian wor has /r/
> not only in Tosk but also in Geg. This means that this /r/ is
> inherited and doesn't derive from earlier *-n-. In fact, <njer-> is
> the Albanian reflex of PIE *h2ner- 'man'.
>
> Piotr

ah! what a surprise, maybe the "mirë" has too an inherited "r" there.
OK since you assume there is h2ner- then wherefrom would you derives the
Rom, /SerbCr/Bulg forms? From Slavic eventualy?
Or do we have to take a look at an another curiosity like Latin
"serenus" versus Romanian "senin"? This will shows too an r > n . I
guess we cannot eyplain the "nenja", "nena", "nene" without the Albanian
"njeri" it doesnt matter how the transformations are. What do you mind?