Re: [tied] Albanian "th"

I am not only irritated, but also ashamed, repeted over and over
again the same things.
For someone who know a little bit Albanian or who read with little
care our messages, it will be easy to be remembered that in Albanian,
depending in dialecst, there is the constant shift th-/f- at the
beginnin of the word: therrë/ferrë 'thorn', i thellë/i fellë 'deep'
(cf. zgavefellë 'cave'), fëmijë/thëmijë 'baby, kid'< Lat. familia,
thëngjill 'ember, coal', but finjë 'lye, buck', so
thërrime/farima 'crumb' I hope is just more then regular.

Konushevci
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--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
> Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
> > Alb. <th> (the spelling indicates a dental fricative, as in
English)
> > derives primarily from Satemised *k^. At the end of roots it may
> > reflect *g^ or *g^H (the expected voiced fricative <dh> was
devoiced
> > word-finally, and the voiceless sound was often generalised
> > analogically). It may also occasionally reflect *d or *dH in this
> > position (via <dh>) for reasons that are a bit too complex to
explain
> > here.
> >
> > <th> for *s occurs in a few words where it is due to dissimilation
> > before another *s (now often lost). One well-known example is
<thanj>
> > 'I dry' *sausnjo: .
> >
> > First and foremost, however, it continues PIE *k^.
> >
> > Piotr
>
>
> I got a bit irritated by the explanation trough "*k^" and "*s" just
> because of some unconcordances between the Albanian and Romanian
words.
> For instance:
>
> Alb/Rom
>
> thumbulle = sâmbure ( I keep in mind here the word TâmburuS too)=
pit
> hurthë = cursã = trap
> thep = Tep = prick, spike
> thump = ciump (c^ump)
> thërrime = fãrâmã = crumb, small piece
>
> What I find strange here is that for the same sound "th" in Albanian
> there are 4 sounds in Romanian. We see that:
>
> th = f ; th = s ; th= T, ; th=c^; th = f
>
> I can trace und understand the /th/= /T/; /th/= /c^/; /th/= /s/ but
I
> cannot trace the /th/= /f/.
> which should be the explanation of /th/=/f/ ?