On Sat, 31 May 2003 14:03:40 +0400, Alexander Stolbov
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astolbov@...> wrote:
>Miguel, thank you very much for the detailed comments.
>As far as I can see you also support the idea of an early splitting of
>"non-Anatolian IE" in Tocharian and the "core IE" (i.e. IE without Anatolian
>and Tocharian).
>How could you estimate the time of this process? I realize that actually
>there is no ground for precise measurements and the answer could be in form
>"rather soon after splitting off Anatolian" or
>"just before the disintegration of the core IE" or
>"approximately in the middle of the timespan between these 2 events".
>Can Tocharian cultural lexics help us here?
Perhaps, but that would require a more in-depth knowledge of Tocharian
than what I have at present.
Based on my conceptions of where PIE came from and when its speakers
moved in the way they did (all non-linguistic condiderations), I would
say that the split between Anatolian and the Rest was ca. 5500 BC,
with the rest splitting off from Balkan-Anatolian as the "Linear
Pottery (LBK) folk" (differentiation of the Rest would already have
started earlier, in the pre-stage of the LBK culture, the Körös
culture of Hungary).
Tocharian would have split off from the Rest not long after this
(Dnepr-Donets culture, early 5th millennium?), moving into
Mesolithic/Sub-Neolithic areas to the east of the LBK area, mixing in
with (and apparently "Indo-Europeanizing") the original population of
the forest-steppe and steppe (Uralic?, North Caucasian? speakers).
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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@...