Re: [tied] Re: Alb. "dirt"

Abdullah Konushevci wrote:

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> 'Murdar' is persian loan in Turkish meaning 'corpse, dead body,
> cadaver'. I am afraid it's compound <mur> (cf. mors, -tis 'death')
> and present stem of verb <dashten> (all paradigm: daram, dari, darad,
> darim, darid, darand 'I/you/he/she/we/You/they 'have') 'to have, to
> posses' (cf. dizdar 'castle's holder', bayrakdar 'flagkeeper',
> tahsildar 'tax-collector', serdar < ser 'head' and -dar 'commander'),
> etc
> Couriuosly, Alb. verb dëlir 'clean' is metathetic form of lëdir 'to
> clean' (cf. lëbyr 'to veil, to dazzle', present also in Dalmatian
> buriti 'id.' and in Romanian, lëvar 'to bend', lëmek 'to moisten, to
> weaken') and it seems like English <to dirt>. Otherwise, <to dirt> in
> Albanian is 'fëlliq' very similar to English <to filth>
>
> Konushevci

with "clean" is an another story, I will post it today in the evening
when I come back.
But is the word in Albanian a loan from Turkish or not?
about Rom. "lãvar" and "lãmec".These words are unknown to me. Where did
you got them from?