P&G wrote:
>> Latin "silvaticus". In Old Latin it was "salvaticus"
>
> I am not aware of this. Can you give examples which are not mere
> spelling mistakes?
>
> Peter
It seems I am not the only with a small dictionary:-))
Sorry Peter, I don't intend to be unpolite to you, take it please just
as a joke. And now the entries about "silva":
silva, -ae f "Wald, Gehölz"; Fülle, Vorrat, Stoff [ vgl.
"Silvae"=Materialien]. Seit Naev., Enn., Plaut., Cato, rom., ebenso
"silvaticus" seit Cato [ vlt. und rom. "salvaticus"=wild unter
Ahnlehnung an "salvare"] und silvester, -tris, -tre
[jünger -tra, -trum] "bewaldet" im Walde lebend; wildwachsend", seit Acc
[ vgl. "silvestricus seit Ps. Hier., EN "Silvester, -trius"]; vgl.
"silvosus" seit Liv. "silvaceus" seit Diosc. [ ebenso -um n.=
"fullion"], "silvastratus", Gl. "silvisco", -ere "gehe zu seher in Holz,
verwildere", seit Cic. "silvula"="Wäldchen", seit Colum.; Komp.:
"silvicaedus" seit Chalc., "silvicola", -ae m. seit Naev. [-colens
Inschr.], "silvicomus" Gramm [ Norden Komm. 141, "silvicultrix" Catull,
"silvifragus" seit Lucr. "silviger", seit Plin; vgl.........."
The etymology is not clear, there is not IE cognates to find, the roots
supposed for this have been *(k)seula, for the Greek word "zulon"(
*ksulom [ root *(k)seuel)-] Lithuanian "sulas "Pfeiler" ahd. "sul", got
"saulus" and Greek "-ule"=Wald, Stoff, Materie etc etc etc, if one wnats
I will give all the entries here.
Generally is now accepted this is a pre-IE word which come from an
unknown language, a language from the Mediteranean Space..
Now to the Rom. word. "sãlbatic" ( the variant with /e/ "sãlbatec" is
just a hyper-correction since the derivatives are all with /i/)
salbatic=sm savage, wild or uncouth man adj wild; (about animals)
untamed; (about people) savage; fierce, cruel
salbatici=vt/vr to turn wild
salbaticie=sf (pustiu) wildness; wilderness; savageness; cu salbaticie
fiercely, cruelly
salbaticit=adj (grown) wild
salbaticiune=sf wild animal
sãlbãTie= Lolium temulentun ( unknown etym.)
cf DEX= from Vulgar latin salvaticus (=silvaticus)