Re: [tied] IE genitive

I to have discussed with Glen about stem-final wovels.

I agree with Glen in most of his view about the effect of stress
position, but I think it is to simple.

I too think that the so-called thematic wovels originates from some
stem-final wovels originating back to the steppe.

The reason I think so, is simply their wide-spread and use in a lot
of functions. I do not think such an imporatnt thing could have
developed so rapidly as Glen proposes.

Glen postulates that the thematic wovel of nouns, originates from the
genitive ending. I think this theory does not work, also because of
the semantic implication it carries. The only way for such a theory
to work, is by redefinition of a genitive into a nominative of a
noun/ajective showing assosiation.

For example the noun wlqwos. If Glens theory is right, this word
originally was the genitive of a noun welq-. Let us asume that "welq-
" had the meaning "deep forest", and wlqwos (gen) then ment "of the
deep forest". After the redefinition wlqwos became a noun meaning
someting like "ting of the deep forest", and later on the word was
used about the animal wolf. Actually his theory have the following
implications:

-The thematic ending being in widespread use as an assosiative
derivational suffixe upon originally athematic stems.

-A lot of athematic/thematic pairs with a different, but somewhat
conncted meanings.

Neither of these are observed in any great degree.