[tied] Re: Got to thinkin' about word order

From: aquila_grande
Message: 21510
Date: 2003-05-04

All right.

There is a theory that the IE genitive marker e(s) and the uralic
ablative marker -ta originated from a steppe ablative marker -ta.

(whether this marker at that time was a postposition or an ending,I
think is irrelevant.)

The theory is further connected to the theory that steppe t became s
in IE, so that -ta became -s after this shift and the zero-grade
period.

According to this theory the ablative gradually developed into a
genitive, but without loosing its former functions all together.

As for the ending -ed, this is connected with another UR ablative
ending, maybe the same as you find in the finnish abessive -tta.

I think this theory maybe right, because it makes the UR and IE case
systems fit very nicely together. There is also many examples of IE -
s paired with UR -t elsewere, and and internal IE s/t-pairs,
suggesting that IE -s- comes from a steppe -t-.

Another thing that supports this theory, is the general tendensy of
ablative elements (wether case endings, prepositions or
postpositions) to develope into genitive elements.