Re: Proto-Albanian

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex_lycos" <altamix@...> wrote:

> Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
>
> alex asked:
> >> A very intersting question should be how is spelt the

word "Danube,

> >> Donau" in Albanian, maybe Abdullah will help us out here
>
> > ************
> > Danau was spelt earler Tuna and today Danub. I am afraid that

first

> > variant may be under influence of Turkish or Osmanish, but I am

not

> > sure
> > I must notice here that we have unvoiced stop in river name: Llap,
> > besides Slavic form Llab, that preserves much older form. Also,

there

> > is oronim Korab and also river name in antiquity Abhas
> > Also in indifinite form, at the end of the words, we have always
> > unvoiced stops, until in definite, voiced ones: thelp, but thelbi,
> > etc
> > I owe these explanations to M. Vidal
> >
> > Konushevci
>
>
> I was afraid this is lost in Albanian and I guess Piotr knew why I
> asked.
> the Romanian name for Danube is Dunãre.
> If this is a compounded word as the "mazãre", "viezure" then the

root is

> for sure "don-" and the suffix is the same "-ele"
> The "o" becanme "u" before "n" so it is a very regular derivation :
> don+ele > dunãre.
>
> Here it ought to see if the Name of Poseidon is to explain trough
> Danube, if there is a compound Posei+don.
>
> Abdullah, can you tell me please if in Albanian the stressed /e/

becomme

> regulary an /je/ ? (vjedhullë)

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Yes, if we have to do with the short vowel: *pekw- 'to cook, to
ripen', Alb. pjek 'to cook, to ripen'; PIE *dhegwh- 'to burn, to
warm', Alb. djeg 'id'; PIE *wet-2 'year', Alb. vjet 'id', vjetë, -
a 'yearling'; Lat. medicus > Alb. mjek 'doctor', Lat. directus > d(i)
rectus > Alb. i(e) drejtë 'right'; Slavic prispeti 'to pop up' >
përspjet 'id'. Otherweise, long *e: gives Alb. o.

Konushevci