Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
> Wrong. Latin /ks/ only became /ss/ in Italy. In Balkan Romance, it
> gives /fs/ in Albanian and /ps/ in Romanian. In Western Romance, it
> gives /ys^/ or /ys/, alanlogous to /kt/, which gives /tt/ in Italian,
> /ft/ in Albanian, /pt/ in Romanian and /yt/ in the West. The
> development was probably /kt/, /ks/ > /xt/, /xs/ with spirantization
> of the /k/, then in Italy /xt/ > /ht/ > /tt/, in the West /xt/ > /çt/
>> /yt/, and in the East /xt/ > /ft/ > /pt/ (unlike what I suggested in
> my previous message)
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> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...
1)The group "cs" is mentained in ?Roma in republican period; in the
provinces there has been already innovates, this group becoming "ss"
(coxim= cossim, vixi=vissi, maximile= masimile, uxorem=usorem,
etc.)(apud Rosetti)
On another hand, the "ps" is rarely represented in Romanian from the
Latin "x", but it is represented trough "s".
maxilla > masea, exit= iesit, laxare > lasa etc, etc etc.
Rosetti admits that the labial threatament of the "cs" is not
accidentaly and G.R. Solta should have showed here a characteristic of
the Thracian language.
About the "modhulle" and "mazare".
The plant which is to find by Dioscoride is written with "z". "mouzola".
Do you expect the Dacian "z" gave an Albanian "dh"? It seems more
probably that the "dh" from Albanian here is older. And if it is so, the
the "z" from Dacian form owf the word, will show that the palatation of
PIE "d" was already closed in that time. It is just too see if the
Albanian "dh" is from an PIE "d" or from an PIE "g'".
"Menzana" in Thracian and "mânz "in Romanian versus "mendh" in Albanian
will show again that this dh > z was already in the Thracian time and
not a late develpoment of Latin "d". Funny, this "development" closed
itself once as the Slavs came.
So we have first a Thracian "z" versus Albanian "dh", we have aftert all
the "alteration" of the Latin in Romanian, and suddenly this phoenomenon
stops as soon as the slavs came, there being no more the "dh" > "z" in
Romanian.
One won't wonder?