Re: Re[2]: [tied] Re: Was proto-romance a pidgin?

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 21435
Date: 2003-05-01

On Thu, 01 May 2003 08:32:52 +0200, alex_lycos <altamix@...>
wrote:

>has indonesia got the islamicreligion in an earlier time?

Indonesia was Islamized from the 13th - 15th c.by the influence of
non-Arabic speaking Muslim Indian traders. Islam in India dates back
to the conquest of Sindh by Arabs in 712, although the big push (Delhi
Sultanate) came in the 12th c. and was a wholly Turkish-Persian
affair.

>I ask it
>because this statment was pointed with the center of gravity on "the
>early adoption of the islamic religion ".Even Turky is a Islamic country
>( ok, the status of the state is an another) but the people speak
>Turkish and not Arabian. More, The Kurds are too moslems and speak
>Kurdish.
>A history of the islamic world ( 600 AC) will speak for itself. The
>Turks have been comming later in the Region but I wonder when became the
>Kurds moslems since they did not got the Arabic as their language.

The Kurds, like the Persians, adopted Islam already in the 7th.
century, but never the Arabic language. The Kurdish mountains
probably offering protection enough against too much Arabic influence,
they did not adopt Shi'ism for national-political reasons, as the
Persians did.

The Maghreb became part of the Caliphate by 705, also rather early,
but control from Baghdad was short-lived. The Arabic language didn't
become a factor until ca. 1050, when the Fatimid Caliphs of Egypt set
loose the Benu Hilal and Benu Sulaym Arab bedouin tribes on their
unfaithful Berber governors.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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