Re: [tied] IE genitive

On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:22:23 +0200 (MET DST), Jens Elmegaard Rasmussen
<jer@...> wrote:

>The rule-of-thumb says "anything capable of ablaut gradation appears in
>the zero-grade if the thematic vowel precedes".

That sounds more reasonable than "the rule that everything following
the thematic vowel appears in its reduced form", to which I objected.

>> I prefer to reconstruct *tosyo (the first /o/ being the thematic
>> vowel, lengthened to /o/ before the 'ending' -esyo, where the /e/ was
>> indeed reduced by zero grade: toesyo > tosyo: I'm not sure whether the
>> accentuation was *tó-esyo or *to-esyó). The athematic pronominal type
>> would be represented by e.g. *kWesyo (from *kWís, not *kWós) or indeed
>> *esyo itself (Nom.masc. *is).
>
>The descriptive thing is that we do no have a long vowel here, so
>_something_ has been reduced. I now of no "athematic pronominal type": the
>"thematic vowel" means "stem-final vowel".

There are clearly two distinct pronominal types, which I call
"athematic" and "thematic". The "athematic type" goes:

N *is *kWis *k^is
A *im *kWim *k^im
"V" *ey *kWey *k^ey
G *esyo *kWesyo *k^esyo
D *esmo:i *kWesmo:i *k^esmo:i
L *esmi *kWesmi *k^esmi
I *eh1 *kWe1 *k^eh1
Ab *eot *kWeot *k^eot

What I call the "thematic type" is:

N *yos *kWos *k^os *so (!)
A *yom *kWom *k^om *tom
G *yosyo *kWosyo *k^osyo *tosyo
D *yosmo:i *kWosmo:i *k^osmo:i *tosmo:i
L *yosmi *kWosmi *k^osmi *tosmi
I *yo(sm)eh1 *kWo(sm)eh1 *k^o(sm)eh1 *to(sm)eh1
Ab *yo(sm)ot *kWo(sm)ot *k^o(sm)ot *to(sm)ot

If you have a better name, I'd be glad to hear it.


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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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