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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
>
> > Finnish both borrowed 'puu-' (I think it was) "tree" (cf.
> German 'Baum') and apparently the "bake" or "roast" word (though
the
> former looks like a Swedish loan).
>
> Fin. puu < *puxI is actually a Uralic word found practically
everywhere in the family, including the Samoyedic languages, which
makes borrowing from Swedish somewhat unlikely (:-)).
"former" as in 'the "bake" word (baaka-)'
Koivulehto thinks it may be a _very_ ancient loan from early IE,
namely a derivative of *bHeuh2- 'grow', and since Gmc. *baumaz is
tentatively assigned to the same word-family, there might be a
connection, albeit an indirect one.
>
> Whether Koivulehto is right or not is a completely nother question.
Most his good-looking Uralic/IE correspondences involve
reconstructions that are Proto-Finno-Ugric or younger. He has,
however, a few Proto-Uralic items that are vaguely like PIE words,
e.g. PU *näxi 'woman, wife' (cf. PIE *gWn.ah2) and -- guess what --
PU *pexi 'cook, prepare (food)', which he compares with *bHeh1-je-.
It's a small world.
>
It certainly is.
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/bHA.html
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/HbHg.html
I can live with *p/bHV-(g/d)- (??) having cognates in FinnoUgric, but
why in AfroAsiatic and Austronesian? (All right, call them lookalikes
then.) I recall that the two roots *weg^-/*wed- "transport; water"
was a similar case: *CVg, *CVd, a CV- stem extended with -g and -
d, "lookalikes" or cognates in Austronesian, AfroAsiatic and IE plus
FinnoUgric. There's no proof here, but enough to make go "hm".
And while I'm fantasizing, there was the supposed case of
Ausrtonesian *bataka, Germanic 'boat' (difficult to reconstruct),
and, I just learned, Old Japanese 'pati' "boat". Einbaum?
Torsten