Re: [tied] Re: Albanian-Romanian Concordances

From: alex_lycos
Message: 21020
Date: 2003-04-15

Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
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> From: "alex_lycos" <altamix@...>
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> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 11:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Albanian-Romanian Concordances
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> I'm not sure I understand your questions well, but if they are about
> the development of *g^ and *g^H in the Satem languages, it was
> generally parallel to the development of *k^. In Slavic, for example,
> *g^(H) > *z while *k^ > *s ; the Lithuanian reflexes are <s^> and
> <z^>. In Old Indic, *k^, g^, g^H^ became <s'>, <j> and <h> (all of
> them were affricates in PIIr.). In Classical Armenian the respective
> reflexes were <s>, <c> [ts] and <j> [dz]

Ammm.... I see I did not made up well the question. I do not keep now in
sight the phenomenon for all languages , just the Rom. Lang is the one
which i was thinking about.
We have the alteration of Latin /k/ & /g/ in Rom. Lang having here the
/c^/ and /g^/. An another kind of palatalisation of these /k/ & /g/ are
the groups "chi(k'i)" and "ghi (g'i).
I wanted to know if these are independents changes or id they are in a
relationship since from /k, g/ we have 2 way of alterations, once /c^,
g^/ and once /k'i, g'i/. The Rom. scholars mean that the /k/ and /g/ in
words like "chin", "ghion" should be seen as palatalized /k/ and /g/ and
not "clean" velars.
So is there any chain as k/g > c^/g^ > k'i/g'i or k/g > k'i/g'i > c^/g^
or there is nothing in a chain here but two different alterations with
no intermediary stops like:
a) k > k'i ; g > g'i
b) k > c^ ; g > g^
and the changes of "a" has nothing to do with changes of "b".