Re: slavic "dalto"

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Abdullah Konushevci" <akonushevci@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:02 AM
> Subject: [tied] Re: slavic "dalto"
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> > According to you and others in the list, Albanians may have they
> words gdhe 'gral, knot' (it has also very cruel figurative
> meaning 'stupid') and also gdhend 'to rough-polish, to carve' (it
> has also figurative meaning 'to emancipate'), but they waiting
> another people to get their word for tool - dalta 'chisel'.
> Albanian has also many derivates of this name: daltoj,
> daltues,daltim, but their are linguisticley irrelevant.
>
>
> Abdullah,
>
> These derivatives are not irrelevant, but there is a diference

between them and the Balto-Slavic cognates enumerated by Sergei.
Slavic has the verb root _from_ which *dolto is derived
(figuratively, the "mother" of *dolto), and a host of other deverbal
derivatives ("sisters" of *dolto). You are telling us that Albanian
has words derived _from <daltë>_ (its "daughters" in Albanian),
which is hardly surprising. Once a language has borrowed a word, it
begins to produce new derivatives.

>
> Piotr

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Piotr,

Until gdhe is prefixed form ga- + PIE root *da- 'to devide'(cf. Alb.
gdhij 'to wake up' and Alb. di-të 'day' from PIE zero grade form
*dyu- or z- + ga- + fellë 'cave' from i thellë/i fellë 'deep',
zgavër 'hole' from z- +ga- + vër>vrimë/birë 'small hole'), and
gdhend from PIE *ga- + *da- + -ent, why couldn't Alb. dal-të be from
PIE *dail- 'to divede', but must be a Slavic loan.

Abdullah